Comments on: Setting the Cally/Dubi Market? http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/ In Gordie We Trust Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:05:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: NYRjurgenno88 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1105 NYRjurgenno88 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:36:25 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1105 fair enough. in that case the best option maybe Ohlund as hen can provide a bit of offense as well but he may be too expensive. Its a shame because there's a few in the system that can fill that need i just dont think they are NHL ready (Dowzek) or Sauer (ready for full time?)... fair enough. in that case the best option maybe Ohlund as hen can provide a bit of offense as well but he may be too expensive. Its a shame because there’s a few in the system that can fill that need i just dont think they are NHL ready (Dowzek) or Sauer (ready for full time?)…

]]> By: Dave http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1104 Dave Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:54:34 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1104 I was more so aiming at the fact that McKee isn't the physical defenseman that the team needs. Yes, he's defensively sound, but he's not a big physical guy. I should have been more clear, my bad. I want a defenseman who plays like Komisarek, hits people, clears the net, etc. I was more so aiming at the fact that McKee isn’t the physical defenseman that the team needs. Yes, he’s defensively sound, but he’s not a big physical guy.

I should have been more clear, my bad. I want a defenseman who plays like Komisarek, hits people, clears the net, etc.

]]> By: NYRjurgenno88 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1103 NYRjurgenno88 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:35:15 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1103 Dave, but McKee is a stay at homer. He does everythign simply but with limited mistakes, block shots, plays the body and is very sensible in his play. Add to that he's been released via buy out he could be had for very cheap. exactly what we want. I'd love Komisarek too but he's going to get way more money than he should thanks to supply and demand! i'd be all for giving Sauer a full year but we may have too inexperienced a back line as it is with Gilroy etc... Dave, but McKee is a stay at homer. He does everythign simply but with limited mistakes, block shots, plays the body and is very sensible in his play. Add to that he’s been released via buy out he could be had for very cheap. exactly what we want. I’d love Komisarek too but he’s going to get way more money than he should thanks to supply and demand! i’d be all for giving Sauer a full year but we may have too inexperienced a back line as it is with Gilroy etc…

]]> By: Dave http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1102 Dave Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:34:52 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1102 Not at $1 million. If they sign a defenseman, I would prefer a big, physical, solid stay-at-homer. A Komisarek type, but not necessarily him. Remember, they already have Redden, Rozsival, Staal and Girardi, and have Gilroy, Sanguinetti, Potter and Sauer all vying for spots this year. Not at $1 million. If they sign a defenseman, I would prefer a big, physical, solid stay-at-homer. A Komisarek type, but not necessarily him.

Remember, they already have Redden, Rozsival, Staal and Girardi, and have Gilroy, Sanguinetti, Potter and Sauer all vying for spots this year.

]]> By: NYRjurgenno88 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1101 NYRjurgenno88 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:19:19 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1101 yeah, i think that would be my max offer too. Problem is, you never know what Sather is thinking! atleast he admitted the other day the rangers had to have more emphasis on youth... whether he follows his words with actions is another matter. A thought for you; as a depth D man, if you could get Jay McKee for around 1m after his buyout would you do it? maybe a great guy to pair someone like Gilroy with??? He seems healthy and almost always has a nice +/- so is responsible defesnively and he does the dirty things well like blocking shots. HE could be a nice depth signing. yeah, i think that would be my max offer too. Problem is, you never know what Sather is thinking!

atleast he admitted the other day the rangers had to have more emphasis on youth… whether he follows his words with actions is another matter.

A thought for you; as a depth D man, if you could get Jay McKee for around 1m after his buyout would you do it? maybe a great guy to pair someone like Gilroy with???
He seems healthy and almost always has a nice +/- so is responsible defesnively and he does the dirty things well like blocking shots. HE could be a nice depth signing.

]]> By: Dave http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1100 Dave Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:07:05 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1100 Anything over $2.6 million is a 1st and a 3rd (details on the Understanding the Cap page). I would still retain them at $2.6, but anything higher is pushing it. Anything over $2.6 million is a 1st and a 3rd (details on the Understanding the Cap page). I would still retain them at $2.6, but anything higher is pushing it.

]]> By: NYRjurgenno88 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1099 NYRjurgenno88 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:03:45 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1099 Dave, agree... if its a 1st AND a 3rd for a 3.1m offer sheet then you definitely have to take it; hard choice but you cannot handicap yourself to that kind of contract to players who are still developing. i'm not happy withthe Chicago deal and hopefully it it wont impact TOO much. I'd be happy if they both get 2m/yr.... which i think is more than fair seeing as its almost 4 times their last contracts. fingers crossed. Dave, agree… if its a 1st AND a 3rd for a 3.1m offer sheet then you definitely have to take it; hard choice but you cannot handicap yourself to that kind of contract to players who are still developing.

i’m not happy withthe Chicago deal and hopefully it it wont impact TOO much. I’d be happy if they both get 2m/yr…. which i think is more than fair seeing as its almost 4 times their last contracts. fingers crossed.

]]> By: Dave http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1098 Dave Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:54:22 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1098 True, and that's where the negotiations begin, it's safe to assume that $2 million - $2.5 million will be the figure they sign for, but it could have been less without the Bolland contract. If they sign an offer sheet in excess of $3.1 million, I say let them walk, and take the compensatino (1st and 3rd rounder) True, and that’s where the negotiations begin, it’s safe to assume that $2 million – $2.5 million will be the figure they sign for, but it could have been less without the Bolland contract.

If they sign an offer sheet in excess of $3.1 million, I say let them walk, and take the compensatino (1st and 3rd rounder)

]]> By: NYRjurgenno88 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1097 NYRjurgenno88 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:26:50 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1097 Dave, i do agree but thats my point; the agent will point to Bolland (which is over the market value if you look at comparables) and the Rangers will point to McLeod as a comparable. Hopefully Cally will sign for a reasonable amount. MY question is this; worst case scenario - a club offers him 3.5+ (like Bolland)... do you then take the compensation pick which ithink then is a 1st rounder (3m+?) I for one love Cally and want to keep him but he needs to realise one year doesnt make a career. Dave, i do agree but thats my point; the agent will point to Bolland (which is over the market value if you look at comparables) and the Rangers will point to McLeod as a comparable. Hopefully Cally will sign for a reasonable amount. MY question is this; worst case scenario – a club offers him 3.5+ (like Bolland)… do you then take the compensation pick which ithink then is a 1st rounder (3m+?)

I for one love Cally and want to keep him but he needs to realise one year doesnt make a career.

]]> By: Dave http://www.blueseatblogs.com/2009/06/30/setting-the-callydubi-market/#comment-1096 Dave Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:18:45 +0000 http://www.blueseatblogs.com/?p=2195#comment-1096 Overpaid or not, it sets the market. Unfortunately, in sports, market value is set by the contracts for this current year, not ones signed in previous years. By Chicago overpaying, it can be used as leverage by Cally's and Dubi's agents. Overpaid or not, it sets the market. Unfortunately, in sports, market value is set by the contracts for this current year, not ones signed in previous years. By Chicago overpaying, it can be used as leverage by Cally’s and Dubi’s agents.

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