Comments on: Where Sather Went Wrong: Extending Rozsival

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:33:56 +0000

It’s also widely known that after 2001, Steinbrenner took all of Cashman’s power away and started making moves on his own. It wasn’t until 2006 that Cashman regained control of the team and started rebuilding. The Yankees went from having no farm team to having at least a middle of the pack system, of which came Joba, Hughes, and the bullpen.

Yes, they spend money, but they spend it on the right players. That’s the toughest thing to do. You can’t fault the Yankees for spending money on the team to win. You have to spend money to win. It’s the nature of the business, not the game.

Also, I am going to add three posts for where Sather went right, and I’m not going to cheap out and include the Gomez trade.

By: becky

becky — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:58:16 +0000

I disagree with you. You can say what you please but til I see him on a budget I’m still thinking he’s average at best. One “advantageous” situation does not make a good GM. Quite frankly, using Minaya is a garbage, cheap move and if you didn’t know me personally is not one you’d be able to make. I wasn’t saying Minaya was a good GM – in fact, I didn’t mention him at all – because he’s not. But the fact that he’s a poor GM doesn’t automatically make Cashman a good GM just because they manage in the same town. When you create a championship team out of a decent amount of money – or even, a low amount of money (most obvious examples are the teams in Florida), then you’re proving yourself. Those are teams that consistently redefine themselves through prospects and smart signings. Deciding to pass on one elite pitcher for another because you don’t want to give up prospects and would rather give up more money than God isn’t a bad move, but it is by no means great.

Also, look what Cashman’s done with unlimited amounts of money throughout the mid 2000′s. He JUST “created” a championship team with over 5 players slated to make $20m next season and the vast majority of them making over $10m, a payroll in 2009 of over $200m… if they DIDN’T win, it would have been absolutely horrid.

THIS is why I don’t argue baseball with you – and why I don’t want to on your hockey blog – because it cheapens my view of you as a sports fan and I know you’re smarter than this.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:57:14 +0000

Becky, the budget argument is over rated and to be honest, a terrible argument. Minaya doesn’t have a limit, and look what he’s done. In 2007, Cashman had a choice of giving up prospects and cash for Johan, or just getting CC for cash. They were in a unique situation that allowed for the 2008 offseason, and Cashman took advantage. That’s being a good GM.

By: becky

becky — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:54:35 +0000

Still a totally different mindset. Not defending Sather here but I can’t believe Cashman is a good GM til I see him working with a somewhat reasonable budget.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:43:01 +0000

I would also like to thank you for being a regular lurker here, it’s not often someone posts here that’s been around since the beginning.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:41:52 +0000

I wasn’t comparing signings, I was comparing the planning of signings and looking into future free agents, not just the current class.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:41:06 +0000

Unfortunately that’s the nature of when the blog was started. I can’t analyze something at the time of the deal if this blog wasn’t around.

That said, when deals do go down, I have always backed up what I said in my initial posts analyzing them (I still don’t like Sean Avery for three more years, and I still love the Zherdev deal).

By: Mikeeyyyyy

Mikeeyyyyy — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:00:46 +0000

I have read the blog…religiously for the past 14 months. And the articles on the games are usually spot on, you even beat zipay, carp, even brooks on things that are going on. But when you start “analysis” of deals , its always in hindsight and you never look at the deal as it pertains to the time the deal was made.

Grow a set and try not to copy off of everyone else.

By: becky

becky — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:29:38 +0000

You can’t compare baseball and hockey signings. Apples and oranges, even I know that. Cashman is like a kid running wild in a toy store with unlimited cash.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:24:31 +0000

The point of these articles is to analyze where and how mismanagement of the salary cap cost or will cost the Rangers.

If you read this blog regularly, you notice that I am actually one of the few unbiased opinions when analyzing deals. You’ll notice that I praised the Zherdev deal, the Gomez deal, the Prospal signing, etc.

Again, the point is to analyze the business of the sport and where, if some time was spent to really analyze where the money should be spent, the Rangers could have improved.

I am going to use Brian Cashman as a comparison here, as he passed on trading for Johan because he saw the upcoming free agent class (CC, AJ, Tex). Sometimes I get the feeling Sather doesn’t look ahead like that.